Best Lens Choices for Canon 300D

The 300d's sensor is essentially the same as the 10D's. You're a lucky man
if you can't see any difference between a Tamron 28-200 and a Canon 28-135.
You'll save lots of money : ) Poor me; even at 62 I can still easily see a
significant difference : (


"Lew" wrote in message

 > My test was simple. I took pictures of a resolution chart and observed
which
 > numbered set of black and gray bars looked like bars without fading
 > together. If there were almost three pixels for a black-gray bar pair, the
 > set of bars and spaces looked correct. Less than three pixels caused the
 > bars and spaces to smear together. Sampling theory says that more than two
 > samples are required to reproduce a point without error, with the "more"
 > being dependent upon the processing used to convert samples into proper
 > points.
 >
 > For several of my test shots, the group labeled "6" was the group that
 > looked correct, with the "7" group having some appearance of bars, but not
 > for certain. Group 6 had 17 black bars and 16 gray spaces. When cropped in
 > photoshop so only the "6" group of bars was present, photoshop indicated
 > that 40 to 45 pixels of the 3072 of the original were used to produce the
 > image in the x direction. The pixel count varied because the camera
position
 > was not exactly correct to produce the same image size at all zoom ranges.
 >
 > For all test shots with the two lenses, a tripod was used with remote
 > shutter. My first attempt with the Tamron at 200mm had movement even on
the
 > tripod when I did not use the remote shutter release. No movement when my
 > hand was not on the camera, even with my 600mm Sigma mirror on the camera.
 >
 > My resolution test is only valid for a digital camera with a sensor as in
 > the rebel. No matter how good the lens, the camera sensor limited my tests
 > for resolution. A lens may be poor and limit the resolution to less than
the
 > sensor can deliver, but to my eye, the limit was due to the sensor. A poor
 > lens may still show bars, but with low contrast. A similar effect can be
 > seen for out of focus shots. I had some of those for comparison when I
tried
 > to use manual focus. I need cataract surgery soon.
 >
 > I don't doubt that smaller zoom range lenses are sharper than the 28-200,
 > but the 28-200 does look like a good match for the rebel sensor.
 >
 > Lew
 >


  > >


   > > > I have a dRebel, the Canon 18-55, and the Tamron 28-200. I just made a
   > > > resolution test that shows both lens at all settings are as good as
the
   > > > 6.3meg pixel sensor allows.
   > > > Lew
  > >
  > >
  > > Huh? Do you mean to say, "it doesn't get any better than this"? And
 > please
  > > explain your resulution tests. Having once owned a Tamron 28-200, I can
  > > tell you that a Sigma 100-300 EX is head and shoulders better on a
  > > resolution test. A Canon 28-135 blows the Tamron away --- again based
on
  > > experience owning both lenses.
  > >
  > >
  > >
  > >
 >
 >
 >> Stay informed about: Best Lens Choices for Canon 300D 

10D is a lot better if you want total control - I could not let a camera
dictate to me what AF or metering mode to use - even in the creative modes,
I like to do what I want to do!


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"3ric" wrote in message

 > Yea, the 10D is a little better, but you will not find a single review
 > that says you get better results with it over the DR. If you need the
 > durability for rain forests and such....sure.
 >
 >

...
  > > HeliPilot,
  > > opinions are not in short supply, never the less here's 1
  > > more:
  > >
  > > <1> The kit lens is a good choice. Many look down on it without
ever
  > > even having used it just because it's a "$100 kit" lens & is unique
because
  > > it's a EF-S which only fits on the Digital Rebel/300D. I have the "kit"
  > > lens & it's well worth the extra $100. It's not Canon's sharpest lens &
has
  > > it's faults but there is nothing better for $100 or less that will give
you
  > > an effect 28.8-88mm coverage (18-55mm). Also as many have said, the kit
  > > lens is selling for more than $100 on Ebay, so if you don't like it
after
  > > you have given it an honest try, you can sell it & recover what you paid
for
  > > it & probably gain a small profit as well.
  > >
  > > <2> I purchased the 55-200mm f4.5-5.6 II USM lens at the same time I
  > > purchased the Digital Rebel/300D kit. This lens works rather well
  > > considering it's price & it does take up exactly where the kit lens
leaves
  > > off, an effective 88-320mm lens. This lens however is slow (f4.5-5.6) &
  > > performs best when stopped down to about f8. Between the kit lens &
this 1
  > > you have effectively 28.8-320mm covered seamlessly with 2 relatively
  > > inexpensive, reasonably good performing lenses.
  > >
  > > <3> The 28-135mm f3.5-5.6 IS USM Lens which I have only owned for
about
  > > a month now is an effective 44.8-216mm lens but it's IS feature works
quite
  > > well & allows me to hand hold shots that I would have to use a tripod on
  > > with my 55-200mm lens. It's easy to keep this lens on the camera for
most
  > > situations that don't require wide angle. No regrets here!
  > >
  > > <4> A Canon 50mm f1.8 II lens is an effective 80mm lens & at about
$70
  > > US, is IMHO a must have in everybody's camera bag. This is my fastest
lens
  > > & will likely remain so for a long time to come. Canon "L" glass is
beyond
  > > my price range at this time. Generally, you get what you pay for in
terms
  > > of optical performance but this lens is the exception. It continues to
  > > surprise me with both it's optical quality & speed. This lens makes
indoor
  > > handheld pictures without a flash, with the camera's ISO set between
400-800
  > > common. Rarely is there need to take the ISO to 1600 with this lens.
  > >
  > > <5> No matter what lens you get always try to use a lens hood on it
even
  > > if it's just a rubber collapsible 1 like the 1 HOYA makes. The lack of
  > > using a lens hood continues to be the source of lens flair problems.
Less
  > > expensive lenses are more prone to such problems, so it's inexpensive
  > > insurance against potential problems. Yes I often use the rubber
  > > collapsible HOYA lens hood
  > > on this lens too.
  > >
  > > Lastly always consider the source of your information. A lot of
people
  > > who don't own & or have never used the Digital Rebel/300D or it's kit
lens
  > > are quick to put them down. You can spend $500 US more on the 10D which
  > > does have more features or save that money & spend it on lenses & ext.
as I
  > > have done.
  > >
  > > Research as much as you can before you buy anything. Here's Canon's
  > > lens web site:
  > >
<font color=green>  > > <a rel="nofollow" style='text-decoration: none;' href="http://www.usa.canon.com/eflenses/</font" target="_blank">http://www.usa.canon.com/eflenses/</font</a>>
  > >
  > > Here is a site that rates lenses:
  > >
<font color=green>  > > <a rel="nofollow" style='text-decoration: none;' href="http://www.photozone.de/2Equipment/easytxt.htm#F50</font" target="_blank">http://www.photozone.de/2Equipment/easytxt.htm#F50</font</a>>
  > >
  > > There are lot's of other review sites as well.
  > >
  > > Best wishes, hope you get a lot of useful information & are happy
with
  > > whatever you get. Just remember that it has to meet "your" needs &
"your"
  > > budget, not somebody else's!
  > >
  > > Respectfully, DHB
  > >
  > >


   > > > I am buying a 300D Rebel this week and I am thinking of purchasing the
   > > > following lens combinations what do you think? Input will be greatly
   > > > appreciated!
   > > >
   > > > My main concern is image sharpness, I am also getting the 18-55mm lens
   > > > that comes with the camera kit.
   > > >
   > > > I am trying to decide which of these two I should get, I don't know if
   > > > the picture quality will vary greatly from the Tamron to the Canon,
   > > > and since most of my photos will be above 28mm I could just leave the
   > > > 18-55 lens at home and carry one of the ones mentioned below.
   > > >
   > > > Canon EF 28-200mm f/3.5-5.6 USM $360.00 USD
   > > >
   > > > Tamron AF 28-200mm f/3.8-5.6 XR Aspherical (IF) Super Zoom $265.00 USD
   > > >
   > > > Or if instead of one of the above I should choose the "perfect
   > > > companion for the 300D"
   > > >
   > > > Canon EF 55-200mm f/4.5-5.6 II USM Telephoto Lens $209.00 USD
   > > >
   > > > Thank very much in advance
 >> Stay informed about: Best Lens Choices for Canon 300D 

I'm with you, JJ!

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"JJ" wrote in message

 > 10D is a lot better if you want total control - I could not let a camera
 > dictate to me what AF or metering mode to use - even in the creative
modes,
 > I like to do what I want to do!
 >
 >
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 >
 >


  > > Yea, the 10D is a little better, but you will not find a single review
  > > that says you get better results with it over the DR. If you need the
  > > durability for rain forests and such....sure.
  > >
  > >


   > > > HeliPilot,
   > > > opinions are not in short supply, never the less here's
1
   > > > more:
   > > >
   > > > <1> The kit lens is a good choice. Many look down on it without
 > ever
   > > > even having used it just because it's a "$100 kit" lens & is unique
 > because
   > > > it's a EF-S which only fits on the Digital Rebel/300D. I have the
"kit"
   > > > lens & it's well worth the extra $100. It's not Canon's sharpest lens
&
 > has
   > > > it's faults but there is nothing better for $100 or less that will
give
 > you
   > > > an effect 28.8-88mm coverage (18-55mm). Also as many have said, the
kit
   > > > lens is selling for more than $100 on Ebay, so if you don't like it
 > after
   > > > you have given it an honest try, you can sell it & recover what you
paid
 > for
   > > > it & probably gain a small profit as well.
   > > >
   > > > <2> I purchased the 55-200mm f4.5-5.6 II USM lens at the same time
I
   > > > purchased the Digital Rebel/300D kit. This lens works rather well
   > > > considering it's price & it does take up exactly where the kit lens
 > leaves
   > > > off, an effective 88-320mm lens. This lens however is slow (f4.5-5.6)
&
   > > > performs best when stopped down to about f8. Between the kit lens &
 > this 1
   > > > you have effectively 28.8-320mm covered seamlessly with 2 relatively
   > > > inexpensive, reasonably good performing lenses.
   > > >
   > > > <3> The 28-135mm f3.5-5.6 IS USM Lens which I have only owned for
 > about
   > > > a month now is an effective 44.8-216mm lens but it's IS feature works
 > quite
   > > > well & allows me to hand hold shots that I would have to use a tripod
on
   > > > with my 55-200mm lens. It's easy to keep this lens on the camera for
 > most
   > > > situations that don't require wide angle. No regrets here!
   > > >
   > > > <4> A Canon 50mm f1.8 II lens is an effective 80mm lens & at
about
 > $70
   > > > US, is IMHO a must have in everybody's camera bag. This is my fastest
 > lens
   > > > & will likely remain so for a long time to come. Canon "L" glass is
 > beyond
   > > > my price range at this time. Generally, you get what you pay for in
 > terms
   > > > of optical performance but this lens is the exception. It continues
to
   > > > surprise me with both it's optical quality & speed. This lens makes
 > indoor
   > > > handheld pictures without a flash, with the camera's ISO set between
 > 400-800
   > > > common. Rarely is there need to take the ISO to 1600 with this lens.
   > > >
   > > > <5> No matter what lens you get always try to use a lens hood on
it
 > even
   > > > if it's just a rubber collapsible 1 like the 1 HOYA makes. The lack
of
   > > > using a lens hood continues to be the source of lens flair problems.
 > Less
   > > > expensive lenses are more prone to such problems, so it's inexpensive
   > > > insurance against potential problems. Yes I often use the rubber
   > > > collapsible HOYA lens hood
   > > > on this lens too.
   > > >
   > > > Lastly always consider the source of your information. A lot of
 > people
   > > > who don't own & or have never used the Digital Rebel/300D or it's kit
 > lens
   > > > are quick to put them down. You can spend $500 US more on the 10D
which
   > > > does have more features or save that money & spend it on lenses & ext.
 > as I
   > > > have done.
   > > >
   > > > Research as much as you can before you buy anything. Here's
Canon's
   > > > lens web site:
   > > >
<font color=brown>   > > > <a rel="nofollow" style='text-decoration: none;' href="http://www.usa.canon.com/eflenses/</font" target="_blank">http://www.usa.canon.com/eflenses/</font</a>>
   > > >
   > > > Here is a site that rates lenses:
   > > >
<font color=brown>   > > > <a rel="nofollow" style='text-decoration: none;' href="http://www.photozone.de/2Equipment/easytxt.htm#F50</font" target="_blank">http://www.photozone.de/2Equipment/easytxt.htm#F50</font</a>>
   > > >
   > > > There are lot's of other review sites as well.
   > > >
   > > > Best wishes, hope you get a lot of useful information & are happy
 > with
   > > > whatever you get. Just remember that it has to meet "your" needs &
 > "your"
   > > > budget, not somebody else's!
   > > >
   > > > Respectfully, DHB
   > > >
   > > >


   > > > > I am buying a 300D Rebel this week and I am thinking of purchasing
the
   > > > > following lens combinations what do you think? Input will be greatly
   > > > > appreciated!
   > > > >
   > > > > My main concern is image sharpness, I am also getting the 18-55mm
lens
   > > > > that comes with the camera kit.
   > > > >
   > > > > I am trying to decide which of these two I should get, I don't know
if
   > > > > the picture quality will vary greatly from the Tamron to the Canon,
   > > > > and since most of my photos will be above 28mm I could just leave
the
   > > > > 18-55 lens at home and carry one of the ones mentioned below.
   > > > >
   > > > > Canon EF 28-200mm f/3.5-5.6 USM $360.00 USD
   > > > >
   > > > > Tamron AF 28-200mm f/3.8-5.6 XR Aspherical (IF) Super Zoom $265.00
USD
   > > > >
   > > > > Or if instead of one of the above I should choose the "perfect
   > > > > companion for the 300D"
   > > > >
   > > > > Canon EF 55-200mm f/4.5-5.6 II USM Telephoto Lens $209.00 USD
   > > > >
   > > > > Thank very much in advance
 >
 >
 >> Stay informed about: Best Lens Choices for Canon 300D 

I agree about the 28-135 IS - great general purpose lens and the macro on it
isn't too shabby (as I discovered when my 50mm macro through a tantrum!) I
never liked the 75-300 IS, found it slow and very soft at 300mm. Invested in
the 70-200 F4 l as a part-exchange - expensive but wonderful! I had the
75-300 with 35mm so I effectively get 320 on the 10D


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"Skip M" wrote in message

 > If your main concern is sharpness, none of the lenses you list are stellar
 > performers. A combination of the 28-135 IS or 28-105 USM and the 75-300
IS
 > or 100-300 USM would be a better choice, although much more expensive.
 > If you are planning on leaving the 18-55 at home, why are you purchasing
it
 > in the first place? Consider a fixed focal length wide angle instead, if
 > the range is a consideration.
 >
 > --
 > Skip Middleton
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  > > I am buying a 300D Rebel this week and I am thinking of purchasing the
  > > following lens combinations what do you think? Input will be greatly
  > > appreciated!
  > >
  > > My main concern is image sharpness, I am also getting the 18-55mm lens
  > > that comes with the camera kit.
  > >
  > > I am trying to decide which of these two I should get, I don't know if
  > > the picture quality will vary greatly from the Tamron to the Canon,
  > > and since most of my photos will be above 28mm I could just leave the
  > > 18-55 lens at home and carry one of the ones mentioned below.
  > >
  > > Canon EF 28-200mm f/3.5-5.6 USM $360.00 USD
  > >
  > > Tamron AF 28-200mm f/3.8-5.6 XR Aspherical (IF) Super Zoom $265.00 USD
  > >
  > > Or if instead of one of the above I should choose the "perfect
  > > companion for the 300D"
  > >
  > > Canon EF 55-200mm f/4.5-5.6 II USM Telephoto Lens $209.00 USD
  > >
  > > Thank very much in advance
 >
 >
 >> Stay informed about: Best Lens Choices for Canon 300D 

Not a big fan of the 75-300 IS, either, but it does fit into a budget better
than, say, the 100-400. And that's 480mm you get with the 10D, not 320mm.
<G>

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"JJ" wrote in message

 > I agree about the 28-135 IS - great general purpose lens and the macro on
it
 > isn't too shabby (as I discovered when my 50mm macro through a tantrum!) I
 > never liked the 75-300 IS, found it slow and very soft at 300mm. Invested
in
 > the 70-200 F4 l as a part-exchange - expensive but wonderful! I had the
 > 75-300 with 35mm so I effectively get 320 on the 10D
 >
 >
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 >
 >


  > > If your main concern is sharpness, none of the lenses you list are
stellar
  > > performers. A combination of the 28-135 IS or 28-105 USM and the 75-300
 > IS
  > > or 100-300 USM would be a better choice, although much more expensive.
  > > If you are planning on leaving the 18-55 at home, why are you purchasing
 > it
  > > in the first place? Consider a fixed focal length wide angle instead,
if
  > > the range is a consideration.
  > >
  > > --
  > > Skip Middleton
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   > > > I am buying a 300D Rebel this week and I am thinking of purchasing the
   > > > following lens combinations what do you think? Input will be greatly
   > > > appreciated!
   > > >
   > > > My main concern is image sharpness, I am also getting the 18-55mm lens
   > > > that comes with the camera kit.
   > > >
   > > > I am trying to decide which of these two I should get, I don't know if
   > > > the picture quality will vary greatly from the Tamron to the Canon,
   > > > and since most of my photos will be above 28mm I could just leave the
   > > > 18-55 lens at home and carry one of the ones mentioned below.
   > > >
   > > > Canon EF 28-200mm f/3.5-5.6 USM $360.00 USD
   > > >
   > > > Tamron AF 28-200mm f/3.8-5.6 XR Aspherical (IF) Super Zoom $265.00 USD
   > > >
   > > > Or if instead of one of the above I should choose the "perfect
   > > > companion for the 300D"
   > > >
   > > > Canon EF 55-200mm f/4.5-5.6 II USM Telephoto Lens $209.00 USD
   > > >
   > > > Thank very much in advance
  > >
  > >
 >
 >
 >> Stay informed about: Best Lens Choices for Canon 300D 

Oops, just realized you mean "320mm" using the 70-200, not 300. Sorry...

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"JJ" wrote in message

 > I agree about the 28-135 IS - great general purpose lens and the macro on
it
 > isn't too shabby (as I discovered when my 50mm macro through a tantrum!) I
 > never liked the 75-300 IS, found it slow and very soft at 300mm. Invested
in
 > the 70-200 F4 l as a part-exchange - expensive but wonderful! I had the
 > 75-300 with 35mm so I effectively get 320 on the 10D
 >
 >
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 >
 >


  > > If your main concern is sharpness, none of the lenses you list are
stellar
  > > performers. A combination of the 28-135 IS or 28-105 USM and the 75-300
 > IS
  > > or 100-300 USM would be a better choice, although much more expensive.
  > > If you are planning on leaving the 18-55 at home, why are you purchasing
 > it
  > > in the first place? Consider a fixed focal length wide angle instead,
if
  > > the range is a consideration.
  > >
  > > --
  > > Skip Middleton
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   > > > I am buying a 300D Rebel this week and I am thinking of purchasing the
   > > > following lens combinations what do you think? Input will be greatly
   > > > appreciated!
   > > >
   > > > My main concern is image sharpness, I am also getting the 18-55mm lens
   > > > that comes with the camera kit.
   > > >
   > > > I am trying to decide which of these two I should get, I don't know if
   > > > the picture quality will vary greatly from the Tamron to the Canon,
   > > > and since most of my photos will be above 28mm I could just leave the
   > > > 18-55 lens at home and carry one of the ones mentioned below.
   > > >
   > > > Canon EF 28-200mm f/3.5-5.6 USM $360.00 USD
   > > >
   > > > Tamron AF 28-200mm f/3.8-5.6 XR Aspherical (IF) Super Zoom $265.00 USD
   > > >
   > > > Or if instead of one of the above I should choose the "perfect
   > > > companion for the 300D"
   > > >
   > > > Canon EF 55-200mm f/4.5-5.6 II USM Telephoto Lens $209.00 USD
   > > >
   > > > Thank very much in advance
  > >
  > >
 >
 >
 >> Stay informed about: Best Lens Choices for Canon 300D 

I would stick with Canon lenses from results I have seen with other makes,
and the 28-135 IS is a really good general purpose lens with reasonable
macro results. On the 300D you get the equivalent of 45-216 on 35mm, and the
IS means you need to use a tripod less often. A cheap and very much
underrated lens is the 50mm f1.8 'standard' lens - which makes a good
portrait lens at 80mm.

In an ideal world a 70-200 would be better than a 28-200 ... the larger the
zoom range, the more compromises there are and quality suffers. I am
fortunate to have recently purchased such a lens but as it is the f4L it was
somewhat expensive! Maybe somebody knows of an independent lens of that
range at a more reasonably price!


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"HeliPilot" wrote in message

 > I am buying a 300D Rebel this week and I am thinking of purchasing the
 > following lens combinations what do you think? Input will be greatly
 > appreciated!
 >
 > My main concern is image sharpness, I am also getting the 18-55mm lens
 > that comes with the camera kit.
 >
 > I am trying to decide which of these two I should get, I don't know if
 > the picture quality will vary greatly from the Tamron to the Canon,
 > and since most of my photos will be above 28mm I could just leave the
 > 18-55 lens at home and carry one of the ones mentioned below.
 >
 > Canon EF 28-200mm f/3.5-5.6 USM $360.00 USD
 >
 > Tamron AF 28-200mm f/3.8-5.6 XR Aspherical (IF) Super Zoom $265.00 USD
 >
 > Or if instead of one of the above I should choose the "perfect
 > companion for the 300D"
 >
 > Canon EF 55-200mm f/4.5-5.6 II USM Telephoto Lens $209.00 USD
 >
 > Thank very much in advance
 >> Stay informed about: Best Lens Choices for Canon 300D 

  > > I like to do what I want to do!


use the manual comand
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Thanks for the support! Been there - done that - with totally manual
cameras, using experience or a lightmeter!

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"Skip M" wrote in message

 > I'm with you, JJ!
 >
 > --
 > Skip Middleton
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  > > 10D is a lot better if you want total control - I could not let a camera
  > > dictate to me what AF or metering mode to use - even in the creative
 > modes,
  > > I like to do what I want to do!
  > >
  > >
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  > >
  > >


   > > > Yea, the 10D is a little better, but you will not find a single review
   > > > that says you get better results with it over the DR. If you need the
   > > > durability for rain forests and such....sure.
   > > >
   > > >


   > > > > HeliPilot,
   > > > > opinions are not in short supply, never the less
here's
 > 1
   > > > > more:
   > > > >
   > > > > <1> The kit lens is a good choice. Many look down on it without
  > > ever
   > > > > even having used it just because it's a "$100 kit" lens & is unique
  > > because
   > > > > it's a EF-S which only fits on the Digital Rebel/300D. I have the
 > "kit"
   > > > > lens & it's well worth the extra $100. It's not Canon's sharpest
lens
 > &
  > > has
   > > > > it's faults but there is nothing better for $100 or less that will
 > give
  > > you
   > > > > an effect 28.8-88mm coverage (18-55mm). Also as many have said, the
 > kit
   > > > > lens is selling for more than $100 on Ebay, so if you don't like it
  > > after
   > > > > you have given it an honest try, you can sell it & recover what you
 > paid
  > > for
   > > > > it & probably gain a small profit as well.
   > > > >
   > > > > <2> I purchased the 55-200mm f4.5-5.6 II USM lens at the same
time
 > I
   > > > > purchased the Digital Rebel/300D kit. This lens works rather well
   > > > > considering it's price & it does take up exactly where the kit lens
  > > leaves
   > > > > off, an effective 88-320mm lens. This lens however is slow
(f4.5-5.6)
 > &
   > > > > performs best when stopped down to about f8. Between the kit lens &
  > > this 1
   > > > > you have effectively 28.8-320mm covered seamlessly with 2 relatively
   > > > > inexpensive, reasonably good performing lenses.
   > > > >
   > > > > <3> The 28-135mm f3.5-5.6 IS USM Lens which I have only owned
for
  > > about
   > > > > a month now is an effective 44.8-216mm lens but it's IS feature
works
  > > quite
   > > > > well & allows me to hand hold shots that I would have to use a
tripod
 > on
   > > > > with my 55-200mm lens. It's easy to keep this lens on the camera
for
  > > most
   > > > > situations that don't require wide angle. No regrets here!
   > > > >
   > > > > <4> A Canon 50mm f1.8 II lens is an effective 80mm lens & at
 > about
  > > $70
   > > > > US, is IMHO a must have in everybody's camera bag. This is my
fastest
  > > lens
   > > > > & will likely remain so for a long time to come. Canon "L" glass is
  > > beyond
   > > > > my price range at this time. Generally, you get what you pay for in
  > > terms
   > > > > of optical performance but this lens is the exception. It continues
 > to
   > > > > surprise me with both it's optical quality & speed. This lens makes
  > > indoor
   > > > > handheld pictures without a flash, with the camera's ISO set between
  > > 400-800
   > > > > common. Rarely is there need to take the ISO to 1600 with this lens.
   > > > >
   > > > > <5> No matter what lens you get always try to use a lens hood on
 > it
  > > even
   > > > > if it's just a rubber collapsible 1 like the 1 HOYA makes. The lack
 > of
   > > > > using a lens hood continues to be the source of lens flair problems.
  > > Less
   > > > > expensive lenses are more prone to such problems, so it's
inexpensive
   > > > > insurance against potential problems. Yes I often use the rubber
   > > > > collapsible HOYA lens hood
   > > > > on this lens too.
   > > > >
   > > > > Lastly always consider the source of your information. A lot of
  > > people
   > > > > who don't own & or have never used the Digital Rebel/300D or it's
kit
  > > lens
   > > > > are quick to put them down. You can spend $500 US more on the 10D
 > which
   > > > > does have more features or save that money & spend it on lenses &
ext.
  > > as I
   > > > > have done.
   > > > >
   > > > > Research as much as you can before you buy anything. Here's
 > Canon's
   > > > > lens web site:
   > > > >
<font color=brown>   > > > > <a rel="nofollow" style='text-decoration: none;' href="http://www.usa.canon.com/eflenses/</font" target="_blank">http://www.usa.canon.com/eflenses/</font</a>>
   > > > >
   > > > > Here is a site that rates lenses:
   > > > >
<font color=brown>   > > > > <a rel="nofollow" style='text-decoration: none;' href="http://www.photozone.de/2Equipment/easytxt.htm#F50</font" target="_blank">http://www.photozone.de/2Equipment/easytxt.htm#F50</font</a>>
   > > > >
   > > > > There are lot's of other review sites as well.
   > > > >
   > > > > Best wishes, hope you get a lot of useful information & are
happy
  > > with
   > > > > whatever you get. Just remember that it has to meet "your" needs &
  > > "your"
   > > > > budget, not somebody else's!
   > > > >
   > > > > Respectfully, DHB
   > > > >
   > > > >


   > > > > > I am buying a 300D Rebel this week and I am thinking of purchasing
 > the
   > > > > > following lens combinations what do you think? Input will be
greatly
   > > > > > appreciated!
   > > > > >
   > > > > > My main concern is image sharpness, I am also getting the 18-55mm
 > lens
   > > > > > that comes with the camera kit.
   > > > > >
   > > > > > I am trying to decide which of these two I should get, I don't
know
 > if
   > > > > > the picture quality will vary greatly from the Tamron to the
Canon,
   > > > > > and since most of my photos will be above 28mm I could just leave
 > the
   > > > > > 18-55 lens at home and carry one of the ones mentioned below.
   > > > > >
   > > > > > Canon EF 28-200mm f/3.5-5.6 USM $360.00 USD
   > > > > >
   > > > > > Tamron AF 28-200mm f/3.8-5.6 XR Aspherical (IF) Super Zoom $265.00
 > USD
   > > > > >
   > > > > > Or if instead of one of the above I should choose the "perfect
   > > > > > companion for the 300D"
   > > > > >
   > > > > > Canon EF 55-200mm f/4.5-5.6 II USM Telephoto Lens $209.00 USD
   > > > > >
   > > > > > Thank very much in advance
  > >
  > >
 >
 >
 >> Stay informed about: Best Lens Choices for Canon 300D 

Thought you'd got me there - but I was referring to the 70-200 giving me 320
<g>! OK so I wasn't very clear - what do you expect from a woman!


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"Skip M" wrote in message

 > Not a big fan of the 75-300 IS, either, but it does fit into a budget
better
 > than, say, the 100-400. And that's 480mm you get with the 10D, not 320mm.
 > <G>
 >
 > --
 > Skip Middleton
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  > > I agree about the 28-135 IS - great general purpose lens and the macro
on
 > it
  > > isn't too shabby (as I discovered when my 50mm macro through a tantrum!)
I
  > > never liked the 75-300 IS, found it slow and very soft at 300mm.
Invested
 > in
  > > the 70-200 F4 l as a part-exchange - expensive but wonderful! I had the
  > > 75-300 with 35mm so I effectively get 320 on the 10D
  > >
  > >
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  > >
  > >


   > > > If your main concern is sharpness, none of the lenses you list are
 > stellar
   > > > performers. A combination of the 28-135 IS or 28-105 USM and the
75-300
  > > IS
   > > > or 100-300 USM would be a better choice, although much more expensive.
   > > > If you are planning on leaving the 18-55 at home, why are you
purchasing
  > > it
   > > > in the first place? Consider a fixed focal length wide angle instead,
 > if
   > > > the range is a consideration.
   > > >
   > > > --
   > > > Skip Middleton
<font color=brown>   > > > <a rel="nofollow" style='text-decoration: none;' href="http://www.shadowcatcherimagery.com</font" target="_blank">http://www.shadowcatcherimagery.com</font</a>>


   > > > > I am buying a 300D Rebel this week and I am thinking of purchasing
the
   > > > > following lens combinations what do you think? Input will be greatly
   > > > > appreciated!
   > > > >
   > > > > My main concern is image sharpness, I am also getting the 18-55mm
lens
   > > > > that comes with the camera kit.
   > > > >
   > > > > I am trying to decide which of these two I should get, I don't know
if
   > > > > the picture quality will vary greatly from the Tamron to the Canon,
   > > > > and since most of my photos will be above 28mm I could just leave
the
   > > > > 18-55 lens at home and carry one of the ones mentioned below.
   > > > >
   > > > > Canon EF 28-200mm f/3.5-5.6 USM $360.00 USD
   > > > >
   > > > > Tamron AF 28-200mm f/3.8-5.6 XR Aspherical (IF) Super Zoom $265.00
USD
   > > > >
   > > > > Or if instead of one of the above I should choose the "perfect
   > > > > companion for the 300D"
   > > > >
   > > > > Canon EF 55-200mm f/4.5-5.6 II USM Telephoto Lens $209.00 USD
   > > > >
   > > > > Thank very much in advance
   > > >
   > > >
  > >
  > >
 >
 >
 >> Stay informed about: Best Lens Choices for Canon 300D 

Hahahaha! That will teach me not to read all the messages before I reply!
Think we are quits now <g>

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"Skip M" wrote in message

 > Oops, just realized you mean "320mm" using the 70-200, not 300. Sorry...
 >
 > --
 > Skip Middleton
<font color=purple> > <a rel="nofollow" style='text-decoration: none;' href="http://www.shadowcatcherimagery.com</font" target="_blank">http://www.shadowcatcherimagery.com</font</a>>


  > > I agree about the 28-135 IS - great general purpose lens and the macro
on
 > it
  > > isn't too shabby (as I discovered when my 50mm macro through a tantrum!)
I
  > > never liked the 75-300 IS, found it slow and very soft at 300mm.
Invested
 > in
  > > the 70-200 F4 l as a part-exchange - expensive but wonderful! I had the
  > > 75-300 with 35mm so I effectively get 320 on the 10D
  > >
  > >
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  > >
  > >


   > > > If your main concern is sharpness, none of the lenses you list are
 > stellar
   > > > performers. A combination of the 28-135 IS or 28-105 USM and the
75-300
  > > IS
   > > > or 100-300 USM would be a better choice, although much more expensive.
   > > > If you are planning on leaving the 18-55 at home, why are you
purchasing
  > > it
   > > > in the first place? Consider a fixed focal length wide angle instead,
 > if
   > > > the range is a consideration.
   > > >
   > > > --
   > > > Skip Middleton
<font color=brown>   > > > <a rel="nofollow" style='text-decoration: none;' href="http://www.shadowcatcherimagery.com</font" target="_blank">http://www.shadowcatcherimagery.com</font</a>>


   > > > > I am buying a 300D Rebel this week and I am thinking of purchasing
the
   > > > > following lens combinations what do you think? Input will be greatly
   > > > > appreciated!
   > > > >
   > > > > My main concern is image sharpness, I am also getting the 18-55mm
lens
   > > > > that comes with the camera kit.
   > > > >
   > > > > I am trying to decide which of these two I should get, I don't know
if
   > > > > the picture quality will vary greatly from the Tamron to the Canon,
   > > > > and since most of my photos will be above 28mm I could just leave
the
   > > > > 18-55 lens at home and carry one of the ones mentioned below.
   > > > >
   > > > > Canon EF 28-200mm f/3.5-5.6 USM $360.00 USD
   > > > >
   > > > > Tamron AF 28-200mm f/3.8-5.6 XR Aspherical (IF) Super Zoom $265.00
USD
   > > > >
   > > > > Or if instead of one of the above I should choose the "perfect
   > > > > companion for the 300D"
   > > > >
   > > > > Canon EF 55-200mm f/4.5-5.6 II USM Telephoto Lens $209.00 USD
   > > > >
   > > > > Thank very much in advance
   > > >
   > > >
  > >
  > >
 >
 >
 >> Stay informed about: Best Lens Choices for Canon 300D 

See, you were more clear than you thought. I just need to read the posts
more than once, sometimes...<G>

--
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"JJ" wrote in message

 > Hahahaha! That will teach me not to read all the messages before I reply!
 > Think we are quits now <g>
 >
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 >
 >


  > > Oops, just realized you mean "320mm" using the 70-200, not 300. Sorry...
  > >
  > > --
  > > Skip Middleton
<font color=green>  > > <a rel="nofollow" style='text-decoration: none;' href="http://www.shadowcatcherimagery.com</font" target="_blank">http://www.shadowcatcherimagery.com</font</a>>


   > > > I agree about the 28-135 IS - great general purpose lens and the macro
 > on
  > > it
   > > > isn't too shabby (as I discovered when my 50mm macro through a
tantrum!)
 > I
   > > > never liked the 75-300 IS, found it slow and very soft at 300mm.
 > Invested
  > > in
   > > > the 70-200 F4 l as a part-exchange - expensive but wonderful! I had
the
   > > > 75-300 with 35mm so I effectively get 320 on the 10D
   > > >
   > > >
   > > > All inward and outward e-mail scanned by NAV Professional 2003
   > > >
   > > >


   > > > > If your main concern is sharpness, none of the lenses you list are
  > > stellar
   > > > > performers. A combination of the 28-135 IS or 28-105 USM and the
 > 75-300
   > > > IS
   > > > > or 100-300 USM would be a better choice, although much more
expensive.
   > > > > If you are planning on leaving the 18-55 at home, why are you
 > purchasing
   > > > it
   > > > > in the first place? Consider a fixed focal length wide angle
instead,
  > > if
   > > > > the range is a consideration.
   > > > >
   > > > > --
   > > > > Skip Middleton
<font color=brown>   > > > > <a rel="nofollow" style='text-decoration: none;' href="http://www.shadowcatcherimagery.com</font" target="_blank">http://www.shadowcatcherimagery.com</font</a>>


   > > > > > I am buying a 300D Rebel this week and I am thinking of purchasing
 > the
   > > > > > following lens combinations what do you think? Input will be
greatly
   > > > > > appreciated!
   > > > > >
   > > > > > My main concern is image sharpness, I am also getting the 18-55mm
 > lens
   > > > > > that comes with the camera kit.
   > > > > >
   > > > > > I am trying to decide which of these two I should get, I don't
know
 > if
   > > > > > the picture quality will vary greatly from the Tamron to the
Canon,
   > > > > > and since most of my photos will be above 28mm I could just leave
 > the
   > > > > > 18-55 lens at home and carry one of the ones mentioned below.
   > > > > >
   > > > > > Canon EF 28-200mm f/3.5-5.6 USM $360.00 USD
   > > > > >
   > > > > > Tamron AF 28-200mm f/3.8-5.6 XR Aspherical (IF) Super Zoom $265.00
 > USD
   > > > > >
   > > > > > Or if instead of one of the above I should choose the "perfect
   > > > > > companion for the 300D"
   > > > > >
   > > > > > Canon EF 55-200mm f/4.5-5.6 II USM Telephoto Lens $209.00 USD
   > > > > >
   > > > > > Thank very much in advance
   > > > >
   > > > >
   > > >
   > > >
  > >
  > >
 >
 >
 >> Stay informed about: Best Lens Choices for Canon 300D 

Why do we dRebel owners try to use the 1.6 conversion factor with the EF-S
kit lens. It is made specifically for the 300D and it's CMOS collector. It
is an 18-55mm lens...a nice wide angle lens. Use the conversion factor for
all other EF lenses. And lest we hikers mention it, it is light as a
feather. Heft it and you'll like it.

It's not Canon's sharpest lens & has it's faults but there is nothing
better for $100 or less that will give you
an effect 28.8-88mm coverage (18-55mm).
"DHB" wrote in message

 > HeliPilot,
 > opinions are not in short supply, never the less here's 1
 > more:
 >
 > <1> The kit lens is a good choice. Many look down on it without ever
 > even having used it just because it's a "$100 kit" lens & is unique
because
 > it's a EF-S which only fits on the Digital Rebel/300D. I have the "kit"
 > lens & it's well worth the extra $100. It's not Canon's sharpest lens &
has
 > it's faults but there is nothing better for $100 or less that will give
you
 > an effect 28.8-88mm coverage (18-55mm). Also as many have said, the kit
 > lens is selling for more than $100 on Ebay, so if you don't like it after
 > you have given it an honest try, you can sell it & recover what you paid
for
 > it & probably gain a small profit as well.
 >
 > <2> I purchased the 55-200mm f4.5-5.6 II USM lens at the same time I
 > purchased the Digital Rebel/300D kit. This lens works rather well
 > considering it's price & it does take up exactly where the kit lens leaves
 > off, an effective 88-320mm lens. This lens however is slow (f4.5-5.6) &
 > performs best when stopped down to about f8. Between the kit lens & this
1
 > you have effectively 28.8-320mm covered seamlessly with 2 relatively
 > inexpensive, reasonably good performing lenses.
 >
 > <3> The 28-135mm f3.5-5.6 IS USM Lens which I have only owned for
about
 > a month now is an effective 44.8-216mm lens but it's IS feature works
quite
 > well & allows me to hand hold shots that I would have to use a tripod on
 > with my 55-200mm lens. It's easy to keep this lens on the camera for most
 > situations that don't require wide angle. No regrets here!
 >
 > <4> A Canon 50mm f1.8 II lens is an effective 80mm lens & at about
$70
 > US, is IMHO a must have in everybody's camera bag. This is my fastest
lens
 > & will likely remain so for a long time to come. Canon "L" glass is
beyond
 > my price range at this time. Generally, you get what you pay for in terms
 > of optical performance but this lens is the exception. It continues to
 > surprise me with both it's optical quality & speed. This lens makes
indoor
 > handheld pictures without a flash, with the camera's ISO set between
400-800
 > common. Rarely is there need to take the ISO to 1600 with this lens.
 >
 > <5> No matter what lens you get always try to use a lens hood on it
even
 > if it's just a rubber collapsible 1 like the 1 HOYA makes. The lack of
 > using a lens hood continues to be the source of lens flair problems. Less
 > expensive lenses are more prone to such problems, so it's inexpensive
 > insurance against potential problems. Yes I often use the rubber
 > collapsible HOYA lens hood
 > on this lens too.
 >
 > Lastly always consider the source of your information. A lot of
people
 > who don't own & or have never used the Digital Rebel/300D or it's kit lens
 > are quick to put them down. You can spend $500 US more on the 10D which
 > does have more features or save that money & spend it on lenses & ext. as
I
 > have done.
 >
 > Research as much as you can before you buy anything. Here's Canon's
 > lens web site:
 >
<font color=purple> > <a rel="nofollow" style='text-decoration: none;' href="http://www.usa.canon.com/eflenses/</font" target="_blank">http://www.usa.canon.com/eflenses/</font</a>>
 >
 > Here is a site that rates lenses:
 >
<font color=purple> > <a rel="nofollow" style='text-decoration: none;' href="http://www.photozone.de/2Equipment/easytxt.htm#F50</font" target="_blank">http://www.photozone.de/2Equipment/easytxt.htm#F50</font</a>>
 >
 > There are lot's of other review sites as well.
 >
 > Best wishes, hope you get a lot of useful information & are happy with
 > whatever you get. Just remember that it has to meet "your" needs & "your"
 > budget, not somebody else's!
 >
 > Respectfully, DHB
 >
 >


  > > I am buying a 300D Rebel this week and I am thinking of purchasing the
  > > following lens combinations what do you think? Input will be greatly
  > > appreciated!
  > >
  > > My main concern is image sharpness, I am also getting the 18-55mm lens
  > > that comes with the camera kit.
  > >
  > > I am trying to decide which of these two I should get, I don't know if
  > > the picture quality will vary greatly from the Tamron to the Canon,
  > > and since most of my photos will be above 28mm I could just leave the
  > > 18-55 lens at home and carry one of the ones mentioned below.
  > >
  > > Canon EF 28-200mm f/3.5-5.6 USM $360.00 USD
  > >
  > > Tamron AF 28-200mm f/3.8-5.6 XR Aspherical (IF) Super Zoom $265.00 USD
  > >
  > > Or if instead of one of the above I should choose the "perfect
  > > companion for the 300D"
  > >
  > > Canon EF 55-200mm f/4.5-5.6 II USM Telephoto Lens $209.00 USD
  > >
  > > Thank very much in advance
 >
 >
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