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Roger4

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(Msg. 31) Posted: Sat Jan 31, 2004 1:48 pm
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"Dave Suwala" wrote in message

 > Why do we dRebel owners try to use the 1.6 conversion factor with the EF-S
 > kit lens.

It gives a comparison with more familiar 35mm equivalents.

 > It is made specifically for the 300D and it's CMOS collector.

In other words, the image size is not intended to be sufficient for a full
size 35mm frame.

 > It is an 18-55mm lens...a nice wide angle lens.

Actually it is a moderate wide-angle to short telephoto zoom.

 > Use the conversion factor for all other EF lenses.

You must be consistent - a 50mm f1.8 will give you the same angle of view as
your zoom set to 50mm and will be equivalent to an 80mm telephoto in 35mm
terms. You need to remember that the 'standard' lens of the 300D would be
50/1.6 or 31.25 mm focal length - equivalent to the diagonal of the 300D
sensor. Corresponding magnifications and angles of view are then simply
worked out as ratios between the lens in question and your standard of
31.25mm.

I've heard that the conversion factor is actually 1.55 - not that it makes
much difference.

 > And lest we hikers mention it, it is light as a
 > feather. Heft it and you'll like it.
 >

Hiking is cool - and your lens a good choice for the 300D - unless you can
afford a 17-40mm L series!

HTH

Roger

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Joseph Meehan

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(Msg. 32) Posted: Sat Jan 31, 2004 7:04 pm
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Some day in the future we are likely to have one or just a few sensor
sizes. When the sensors are standardized for some years and everyone has a
good feel for them, then we will talk about lenses like we now talk about
them for 35mm and medium format and large format. It of course will require
one to know what sensor size you are talking about, just as you need to know
what film size you need today.

Right now there are several sensors sizes and I would not bet that in
the next few years we will not see many more as technology limits and
manufacturing efficiencies change. As time goes on and the technology
becomes more mature I expect only a very few sensor sizes to remain, but
unlike film the driving force will be the manufacturing efficiencies not the
need for a standard film size that will be the reason.

When that happens then talking about a 37mm lens for a compact digital
or a 47 mm lens for a digital SLR or a 60 mm for a large format digital may
all mean the equivalent to "standard" like the 45-57mm lenses on a 35 mm and
no one will bother with using the equivalent language to say what field a
lens will cover.

--
Joseph E. Meehan

26 + 6 = 1 It's Irish Math


"Dave Suwala" wrote in message

 > Why do we dRebel owners try to use the 1.6 conversion factor with the EF-S
 > kit lens. It is made specifically for the 300D and it's CMOS collector.
It
 > is an 18-55mm lens...a nice wide angle lens. Use the conversion factor
for
 > all other EF lenses. And lest we hikers mention it, it is light as a
 > feather. Heft it and you'll like it.
 >
 > It's not Canon's sharpest lens & has it's faults but there is nothing
 > better for $100 or less that will give you
 > an effect 28.8-88mm coverage (18-55mm).


  > > HeliPilot,
  > > opinions are not in short supply, never the less here's 1
  > > more:
  > >
  > > <1> The kit lens is a good choice. Many look down on it without
ever
  > > even having used it just because it's a "$100 kit" lens & is unique
 > because
  > > it's a EF-S which only fits on the Digital Rebel/300D. I have the "kit"
  > > lens & it's well worth the extra $100. It's not Canon's sharpest lens &
 > has
  > > it's faults but there is nothing better for $100 or less that will give
 > you
  > > an effect 28.8-88mm coverage (18-55mm). Also as many have said, the kit
  > > lens is selling for more than $100 on Ebay, so if you don't like it
after
  > > you have given it an honest try, you can sell it & recover what you paid
 > for
  > > it & probably gain a small profit as well.
  > >
  > > <2> I purchased the 55-200mm f4.5-5.6 II USM lens at the same time I
  > > purchased the Digital Rebel/300D kit. This lens works rather well
  > > considering it's price & it does take up exactly where the kit lens
leaves
  > > off, an effective 88-320mm lens. This lens however is slow (f4.5-5.6) &
  > > performs best when stopped down to about f8. Between the kit lens &
this
 > 1
  > > you have effectively 28.8-320mm covered seamlessly with 2 relatively
  > > inexpensive, reasonably good performing lenses.
  > >
  > > <3> The 28-135mm f3.5-5.6 IS USM Lens which I have only owned for
 > about
  > > a month now is an effective 44.8-216mm lens but it's IS feature works
 > quite
  > > well & allows me to hand hold shots that I would have to use a tripod on
  > > with my 55-200mm lens. It's easy to keep this lens on the camera for
most
  > > situations that don't require wide angle. No regrets here!
  > >
  > > <4> A Canon 50mm f1.8 II lens is an effective 80mm lens & at about
 > $70
  > > US, is IMHO a must have in everybody's camera bag. This is my fastest
 > lens
  > > & will likely remain so for a long time to come. Canon "L" glass is
 > beyond
  > > my price range at this time. Generally, you get what you pay for in
terms
  > > of optical performance but this lens is the exception. It continues to
  > > surprise me with both it's optical quality & speed. This lens makes
 > indoor
  > > handheld pictures without a flash, with the camera's ISO set between
 > 400-800
  > > common. Rarely is there need to take the ISO to 1600 with this lens.
  > >
  > > <5> No matter what lens you get always try to use a lens hood on it
 > even
  > > if it's just a rubber collapsible 1 like the 1 HOYA makes. The lack of
  > > using a lens hood continues to be the source of lens flair problems.
Less
  > > expensive lenses are more prone to such problems, so it's inexpensive
  > > insurance against potential problems. Yes I often use the rubber
  > > collapsible HOYA lens hood
  > > on this lens too.
  > >
  > > Lastly always consider the source of your information. A lot of
 > people
  > > who don't own & or have never used the Digital Rebel/300D or it's kit
lens
  > > are quick to put them down. You can spend $500 US more on the 10D which
  > > does have more features or save that money & spend it on lenses & ext.
as
 > I
  > > have done.
  > >
  > > Research as much as you can before you buy anything. Here's Canon's
  > > lens web site:
  > >
<font color=green>  > > <a rel="nofollow" style='text-decoration: none;' href="http://www.usa.canon.com/eflenses/</font" target="_blank">http://www.usa.canon.com/eflenses/</font</a>>
  > >
  > > Here is a site that rates lenses:
  > >
<font color=green>  > > <a rel="nofollow" style='text-decoration: none;' href="http://www.photozone.de/2Equipment/easytxt.htm#F50</font" target="_blank">http://www.photozone.de/2Equipment/easytxt.htm#F50</font</a>>
  > >
  > > There are lot's of other review sites as well.
  > >
  > > Best wishes, hope you get a lot of useful information & are happy
with
  > > whatever you get. Just remember that it has to meet "your" needs &
"your"
  > > budget, not somebody else's!
  > >
  > > Respectfully, DHB
  > >
  > >


   > > > I am buying a 300D Rebel this week and I am thinking of purchasing the
   > > > following lens combinations what do you think? Input will be greatly
   > > > appreciated!
   > > >
   > > > My main concern is image sharpness, I am also getting the 18-55mm lens
   > > > that comes with the camera kit.
   > > >
   > > > I am trying to decide which of these two I should get, I don't know if
   > > > the picture quality will vary greatly from the Tamron to the Canon,
   > > > and since most of my photos will be above 28mm I could just leave the
   > > > 18-55 lens at home and carry one of the ones mentioned below.
   > > >
   > > > Canon EF 28-200mm f/3.5-5.6 USM $360.00 USD
   > > >
   > > > Tamron AF 28-200mm f/3.8-5.6 XR Aspherical (IF) Super Zoom $265.00 USD
   > > >
   > > > Or if instead of one of the above I should choose the "perfect
   > > > companion for the 300D"
   > > >
   > > > Canon EF 55-200mm f/4.5-5.6 II USM Telephoto Lens $209.00 USD
   > > >
   > > > Thank very much in advance
  > >
  > >
 >
 >

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(Msg. 33) Posted: Sat Jan 31, 2004 10:19 pm
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"Dave Suwala" wrote in message

 > Why do we dRebel owners try to use the 1.6 conversion factor with the EF-S
 > kit lens. It is made specifically for the 300D and it's CMOS collector.
It
 > is an 18-55mm lens...a nice wide angle lens. Use the conversion factor
for
 > all other EF lenses. And lest we hikers mention it, it is light as a
 > feather. Heft it and you'll like it.

can anyone confirm that is lenses aren't multiplied? It seems a silly focal
length to have. It makes sense as a 1.5x lense but every other can kit
lense goes from 28- 80 or 28-105. So what gives?
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Jeff Shoaf

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(Msg. 34) Posted: Sat Jan 31, 2004 11:10 pm
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"Deathwalker" wrote in


 >


  >> Why do we dRebel owners try to use the 1.6 conversion factor with the
  >> EF-S kit lens. It is made specifically for the 300D and it's CMOS
  >> collector.
 > It
  >> is an 18-55mm lens...a nice wide angle lens. Use the conversion
  >> factor
 > for
  >> all other EF lenses. And lest we hikers mention it, it is light as a
  >> feather. Heft it and you'll like it.
 >
 > can anyone confirm that is lenses aren't multiplied? It seems a silly
 > focal length to have. It makes sense as a 1.5x lense but every other
 > can kit lense goes from 28- 80 or 28-105. So what gives?
 >
 >
 >

The 18-55 rating is the actual focal length and does not have the "crop
factor" indicated. To get the effective field of view on the 300D, multiply
by 1.6 - that gives an effective field of view of 28.8-88 mm.
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Jeff Shoaf

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(Msg. 35) Posted: Sat Jan 31, 2004 11:13 pm
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"Dave Suwala" wrote in


 > Why do we dRebel owners try to use the 1.6 conversion factor with the
 > EF-S kit lens. It is made specifically for the 300D and it's CMOS
 > collector. It is an 18-55mm lens...a nice wide angle lens. Use the
 > conversion factor for all other EF lenses. And lest we hikers mention
 > it, it is light as a feather. Heft it and you'll like it.
 >
 > It's not Canon's sharpest lens & has it's faults but there is nothing
 > better for $100 or less that will give you
 > an effect 28.8-88mm coverage (18-55mm).

You have to use the 1.6 crop factor because Canon is listing the actual
focal length of the lens - it's 18-55mm focal length. The focal length
doesn't change due to the sensor size or mount. The conversion is a field
of view crop, not a focal length multiplier.
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